Tuesday, March 9, 2010

No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle's Wii Nintendo Channel Data Debut

No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle's 
Wii Nintendo Channel Data, Amazon.com Sale Rank, and GameRankings.com Review Score Average
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Number of Players Reporting Data:
No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle debuts this week with approximately 4,806 players reporting their data on the Wii's Nintendo Channel.

"Total" Game-Play Hours Reported:
No More Heroes 2 has 56,281 Total Hours reported for its debut.

Amazon.com Sale Rank:
No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle's Amazon.com sale rank is currently #696 and its current selling price is $46.99.

GameRankings.com's Review Score Average:
No More Heroes 2's review score average is 85.91% based on 33 reviews.

Now for a comparison, take a look at how the original No More Heroes is doing:
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Number of Players Reporting Data:
No More Heroes has approximately 147,072 players reporting data on the Nintendo Channel, an increase of 719 more players than last week.

"Total" Game-Play Hours Reported/Increased:
No More Heroes has 1,761,827 Total Hours reported this week, an increase of 8,419 hours over last week.

Amazon.com Sale Rank:
No More Heroes' Amazon.com sale rank is currently #1,596 and its current advertised selling price is $81.97.

GameRankings.com's Review Score Average:
No More Heroes' review score average is 82.56% based on 62 reviews.

It's interesting to me that No More Heroes 2 took 41 days to debut on the Wii's Nintendo Channel, and it's barely over the 50,000 hours mark.
I guess I'm surprised because I thought the game was highly anticipated and that it would debut quicker than it has.

I do think that looking at the original No More Heroes' numbers show that there is a great possibility for this game to end up doing well.
Perhaps No More Heroes 2 will end up being another "slow burn" title on the Wii.

Have you played either or both of these games?  If so, do you think they're worth a buy or a rent?
I'm honestly not interested in either of them, but I do find it interesting the following that Suda 51 and his games seem to have.

If you're interested in either of these games, you can see some new and used prices for them on Amazon.com right here:


  1. I hated both of them about as much as they love to cuss to appeal to their angsty anarchic teenage audiences.

  2. I finished No More Heroes and I am currently playing Desperate Struggle. I love the world, I love the over the top characters and I love the retro goddies you get with it.

    So far, despite it's flaws I think No More Heroes is the better game and the best third party game on Wii. I didn't like Desperate Struggle in the beginning actually, but it has grown on me. I like the menu driven overworld, I like the 8-bit retro games (except for the 8 bit workout games GOD I HATE THEM!!). But the overall feel of Desperate Struggle seems a little more forced than the first.

    I just beat the third proper boss, so I am real early in the game. But so far it is really good and I recommend it.

  3. Have both, great games. The main character has a lot of growth in this one.

    It was highly anticipated for me, got it day one. I don't discount anonymous' opinion, but um, I'm not exactly an angsty anarchist teenager. 31, married with child, thank you very much.

    Great combat. I don't know what it is, but button press sword combos with a motion control finisher just feels so right for me, endless waves of goons just never gets old. For some reason, I can't say as much for the fighting in Madworld. I can't put my finger on why NMH feels so much better in comparison.

    The 8bit games seem to be hit or miss with people from what I've read. Frankly, I love them, and find their inclusion a little bit of genius on Suda's part, because the mature audience that the game targets for the most part grew up playing these sorts of games. The other thing thats nice about the 8bit games, if your first gaming console was a PS1, you don't need to grind through the mini-games to advance the story.

    Anyway, I've got about 30 hours into the game between my third playthrough on Bitter and the sweet mode you unlock for beating the game. I've also dusted off the original to try and get through that one on bitter. They complement each other very well and I recommend every Wii owner at least try them out. After the kiddies go to bed of course.

  4. @Chuckpebble
    You are absolutely right about Madworld. In the first couple levels it was really intersting and fun, you got to do all sorts of crazy things and it was very over the top. After a while though, it really started to sit poorly with me. I liked the artstyle, I didn't mind the over the top blood and obviously it wasn't the idea of fighting and killing enemies that did it.

    After thinking on it, I came to the conclusion that the idea that I wasn't just killing other characters, but really torturing them, doing as much as I could to them before killing them and doing it in the most grusome way I could come up with REALLY started to bother me on a personal level, so I stopped playing it.

  5. @Anonymous:
    I can understand not liking the cursing in the game.

    @Kyle in DE:
    It's interesting you mentioned the 8-bit games and how you don't like them, I only remember reading how much people liked them in NMH2.

    "After the kiddies go to bed of course."
    A problem I have with a lot of games today is that there isn't a way to turn off the over-the-top cursing, violence, innuendos, etc., in most games.
    Call of Duty: World at War on the Wii is the only "Mature" game I know that actually has a "content filter". It changed the dialog during game-play, as well as what was viewed during cut-scenes.

    It would be nice if games could have a multiple choice ESRB rating system programmed into them.

    Also, I rented MadWorld and returned it after playing through the first level. It just didn't "click" with me, and I was surprised because I had heard so much "good" about the game.

    Thank you all for the comments!

  6. Got both games, and I compare them to Kill Bill 1 & 2. If you like those movies, you'll love this game series.

  7. @ coffeewithgames
    Let me clarify my comment on the Retro Mini games. I like the 8-bit mini games quite a bit. My "I Hate that game" comment was meant specifically for the Strength Training workout routine. I spent $60000 (10 tries) on the level 3 workout for saying f--- this and just went to the boss battle.

    My favorite retro game is Bug Out, also proves to me to be the most lucrative. Lay the Tile is fun too now I know what to do.

  8. @Anonymous from March 9, 2010 @12:58PM:
    Interesting. I haven't seen either of the Kill Bill movies, but I have seen trailers for them.

    This is the first time I've heard No More Heroes compared to the Kill Bill movies.
    I wonder if others that have seen the movies and played the games would agree?

    @Kyle in DE:
    Okay. Thanks for the clarification. I had heard only good about the Retro Mini games, so I thought perhaps there was something about them you didn't like. Now it makes sense.

    Bug Out, is that the one searching for scorpions or something? I know that one was in 3D and not 2D though.

    Thanks to the both of you for the comments!

  9. @Anonymous from March 9, 2010 @2:34PM:
    I know. The crazy thing is that was the "advertised" price, meaning it was the main price showing when you clicked on the game after doing a search for it.

    If people don't look, they could miss the used and lower priced new copies.

    Thanks for the comment!

  10. At anonymous 3/9 3:42am

    The satire must have went over your head. Play something simple than

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  12. @coffeewithgames
    Oh, the content filter in No More Heroes 2 is great, I've used it. On the city map, just stay in the green and blue menu items. I actually made myself rich, and bought all of the clothing options during times when my daughter was playing in the room. She also really loved the cat training games. Hilarious moments those.

    That said, it would be cool if all games gave the option to filter language. I guess you could always turn off the sound effects in the options, which I've actually already done on occasion to capture some of the excellent soundtrack in NMH2, I haven't really played that way though.

    As for making money, check this out:
    Getting Trashed gets you about LB$150,000 a pop that way.

  13. NMH2 is what I refer to as "a gamer's game". It ridiculously hard in some places, unforgiving in others. Highly repetitive while at the same time being new and refreshing in its simplicity. You get better as you play it - which is surely lacking from the games being released nowadays People will look at the television and wonder what kind of madness you are playing. All they will see is flashing lights and exploding bodies.

    It is probably the best "new IP" in years. Mario is mario you've played it a thousand times but its the same-o-same-o. NMH2 is not mario and it will never be. You chop heads off and you turn into a tiger and bite people while calling them losers and eating pizza for health.

    Its a M rated game. There will be no feature to turn Mario into a "M rated" game which is why you logic is flawed. Vegetarians don't eat meat, asking meat producers to grow vegetables is retarded. The quality of the game is in its M-ratedness, and its edginess, not in its mass appeal. This is why people compare it to Kill Bill, its a movie in a game.

    Its the game that your parents said was going to rotten your brain. Its like eating too much sugar. You go into the in game clothes store and you buy a t-shirt that he wears throughout ALL THE CUT-SCENES. I wonder why more games don't let you buy clothes. Its just a texture swap. Its adds a certain substance to the cut-scenes.

    My only complaint is that its not long enough. 10 hours of fun, 3 hours of annoying boss battles. Games like this should go on forever with auto-generated dungeons.

    All gamers should buy it. However Moms and Pops should rent it because it can get really hard in some places and it can take along time to memorize boss patterns enough to kill them. Good reflexes and thumbs are required.

    sorry it turned into a RANT.

  14. @Chuckpebble:
    I've turned the voices off in games like Killzone 2 and Resistance: Fall of Man, and I don't think it detracted from the game-play.

    Does NMH2 have subtitles?

    First, thanks for the "RANT"!
    I know many gamers(looks at IGN) that would like the option a M rated Mario game.

    I didn't necessarily mean the game going from M to E, or from E to M. I think COD:WaW's content filter did it perfect.
    I understand though, what you mean about a game like NMH2 appealing to the market it does, because of its content.

    Thanks to the both of you for the continued comments!

  15. Video games as a industry are always treated as a sub-art. You would never hear a person say that I wish that violent Friday the 13th movie had a E rated version. the very concept is ludacris. OR better yet a version of shakespeare in which the lovers don't drink posion at the end.

    A game like NMH2 is like heavy metal music. It only makes sense in its context. Of course you could take out the voilent content and put barbie as the lead. But I am sure there is a barbie sword fighting games already on the self - so why do we need to make 2?

    spelling errors, typing in the dark.

  16. @CWG - yes, there are subtitles in the game. I actually turned them on at one particular spot during my second play through because I kept mis-hearing a certain line. That scene was a million times funnier once I knew what he was saying.


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